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Travels of a Dreamwalker - Karen659
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Re: Travels of a Dreamwalker - Karen659
168) Wine Effects, Sending Energy Attempt
I have to start this experience with some background so as you can understand maybe why things happened as they did.
I had not expected to get OOB this morning, so had no focus or intention set as to what exactly I would do if I did. That is a key point in maintaining a degree of control when you start your induction, although I have to add, that I also had had a few glasses of wine prior to bed and think that my ‘consciousness’ was also not fully ‘awake’ to maintain the control either!! Lol
I remember waking about 4am and needing something to drink, having already dreamed I had downed an entire bottle with gusto! Lol I felt awake enough to think about possibly attempting to get OOB, but knew that many times alcohol impacts your ability to do so, so didn’t focus too much on trying.
Getting back to sleep, I remember starting to feel a ‘swaying’ motion…actually thinking, ‘oh dear! I did have too much to drink’!! lol But then knew that this rocking motion could easily be amplified and turned into an OBE, so worked on doing that.
I felt my upper torso swaying back and forth, and then focused on moving even a hand or foot astrally. It was enough that I soon became aware of BOTH my legs being held straight upright off the bed!!! At first I wasn’t sure I was even asleep, that maybe I really HAD raised my legs this high!
Knowing this wasn’t likely, I just assumed it was my astral body, and tried to roll out. It was a bit difficult to separate, but eventually I did find myself standing in my bedroom facing to door to leave. Realizing I was out, I was thrilled, and found myself starting to float up and through the bedroom ceiling.
However, just before exiting the room, I remembered what Jaime in the Astral Projectors group on Facebook did once. He was able to send him own sleeping body healing energy while he was out, and I wanted to do that too!
I turned around and easily saw my body lying on the bed under the covers. For some reason, my face was covered or not clearly visible. (Again, as you may know from previous posts, I believe it is my own preference NOT to see my face as it is possible my ‘mind’ may not be able to process the actual fact that I am in two places at once without return to body).
I move closer to the bed, with the intention of sending energy to my body, but was shocked to feel that the closer I got to my body on the bed, the less ability I had to ‘see’ it clearly, as it appeared to emit some sort of wavy distorted energy or vibrations that did not feel good.
I knew enough to not press this attempt, as you know with any type of ‘negative’ response you are likely to return to body, so I turned back around and continued to float up and out of the bedroom ceiling.
Now, I was not in control of where I was going, whether lack of intent or too much wine, but I found myself outside the house in the dark above my front yard. I could see a ray of light with what looked like rain coming down in the lit area, and moved closer to see what it was.
Entering the light, I could see it was a ‘spotlight’ of sorts off to the side of the yard, and I could feel the ‘tingles’ of what I thought was rain. (In real life, it was not raining at that time, so I have no idea what it was)
Flying through the trees that line my property, I hear children walking along the road behind my house and moved to go see what was going on with them. I thought, because it was early morning, that perhaps they were on their way to the school bus stop. I thought it was sad that they had to walk to the bus stop in such darkness.
It was at that time I was totally taken into a lucid dream that I have very little recall of once awake. In hindsight, I do think that perhaps my ‘woozy’ body was emitting those peculiar energy waves due to its destabilized state, and the lack of control and my memories of the LD were also affected.
However, I am happy that at least I remembered to try to send energy to my body when out, so that means maybe next time with an improved physical body and mind, I’ll succeed!
**Interesting to note that I saw this light as a spotlight, and didn't think to move toward it but was more interested in the 'tingling rain' that I felt within it! Not sure if it was part of my awareness of Mike's experiment or not...I did not set the intention to do so this time, but my mind knew from his post that it'd be a great experiment to try at some point! Who knows what might have happened had I went 'toward the light'! Will just have to try again!
I have to start this experience with some background so as you can understand maybe why things happened as they did.
I had not expected to get OOB this morning, so had no focus or intention set as to what exactly I would do if I did. That is a key point in maintaining a degree of control when you start your induction, although I have to add, that I also had had a few glasses of wine prior to bed and think that my ‘consciousness’ was also not fully ‘awake’ to maintain the control either!! Lol
I remember waking about 4am and needing something to drink, having already dreamed I had downed an entire bottle with gusto! Lol I felt awake enough to think about possibly attempting to get OOB, but knew that many times alcohol impacts your ability to do so, so didn’t focus too much on trying.
Getting back to sleep, I remember starting to feel a ‘swaying’ motion…actually thinking, ‘oh dear! I did have too much to drink’!! lol But then knew that this rocking motion could easily be amplified and turned into an OBE, so worked on doing that.
I felt my upper torso swaying back and forth, and then focused on moving even a hand or foot astrally. It was enough that I soon became aware of BOTH my legs being held straight upright off the bed!!! At first I wasn’t sure I was even asleep, that maybe I really HAD raised my legs this high!
Knowing this wasn’t likely, I just assumed it was my astral body, and tried to roll out. It was a bit difficult to separate, but eventually I did find myself standing in my bedroom facing to door to leave. Realizing I was out, I was thrilled, and found myself starting to float up and through the bedroom ceiling.
However, just before exiting the room, I remembered what Jaime in the Astral Projectors group on Facebook did once. He was able to send him own sleeping body healing energy while he was out, and I wanted to do that too!
I turned around and easily saw my body lying on the bed under the covers. For some reason, my face was covered or not clearly visible. (Again, as you may know from previous posts, I believe it is my own preference NOT to see my face as it is possible my ‘mind’ may not be able to process the actual fact that I am in two places at once without return to body).
I move closer to the bed, with the intention of sending energy to my body, but was shocked to feel that the closer I got to my body on the bed, the less ability I had to ‘see’ it clearly, as it appeared to emit some sort of wavy distorted energy or vibrations that did not feel good.
I knew enough to not press this attempt, as you know with any type of ‘negative’ response you are likely to return to body, so I turned back around and continued to float up and out of the bedroom ceiling.
Now, I was not in control of where I was going, whether lack of intent or too much wine, but I found myself outside the house in the dark above my front yard. I could see a ray of light with what looked like rain coming down in the lit area, and moved closer to see what it was.
Entering the light, I could see it was a ‘spotlight’ of sorts off to the side of the yard, and I could feel the ‘tingles’ of what I thought was rain. (In real life, it was not raining at that time, so I have no idea what it was)
Flying through the trees that line my property, I hear children walking along the road behind my house and moved to go see what was going on with them. I thought, because it was early morning, that perhaps they were on their way to the school bus stop. I thought it was sad that they had to walk to the bus stop in such darkness.
It was at that time I was totally taken into a lucid dream that I have very little recall of once awake. In hindsight, I do think that perhaps my ‘woozy’ body was emitting those peculiar energy waves due to its destabilized state, and the lack of control and my memories of the LD were also affected.
However, I am happy that at least I remembered to try to send energy to my body when out, so that means maybe next time with an improved physical body and mind, I’ll succeed!
**Interesting to note that I saw this light as a spotlight, and didn't think to move toward it but was more interested in the 'tingling rain' that I felt within it! Not sure if it was part of my awareness of Mike's experiment or not...I did not set the intention to do so this time, but my mind knew from his post that it'd be a great experiment to try at some point! Who knows what might have happened had I went 'toward the light'! Will just have to try again!
"The more we learn the more limitless the Universe becomes!"
Re: Travels of a Dreamwalker - Karen659
February 20, 2012 169) Emotionally Intense OBE; Helping a Child
I woke as I sometimes do about 3 am and had difficulty falling back asleep. Figuring it was a good time to try for another OBE, I affirmed my intention to help others if I could as I always like to do.
Just as I was falling back to sleep, in that in-between state of asleep and awake, I thought I heard someone calling ‘mom’ or ‘ma’..…a little voice crying out, and when I heard it again, I said “I’m here!â€
I woke as I sometimes do about 3 am and had difficulty falling back asleep. Figuring it was a good time to try for another OBE, I affirmed my intention to help others if I could as I always like to do.
Just as I was falling back to sleep, in that in-between state of asleep and awake, I thought I heard someone calling ‘mom’ or ‘ma’..…a little voice crying out, and when I heard it again, I said “I’m here!â€
"The more we learn the more limitless the Universe becomes!"
Re: Travels of a Dreamwalker - Karen659
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February 20, 2012 169) Emotionally Intense OBE; Helping a Child
I woke as I sometimes do about 3 am and had difficulty falling back asleep. Figuring it was a good time to try for another OBE, I affirmed my intention to help others if I could as I always like to do.
Just as I was falling back to sleep, in that in-between state of asleep and awake, I thought I heard someone calling ‘mom’ or ‘ma’..…a little voice crying out, and when I heard it again, I said “I’m here!â€
February 20, 2012 169) Emotionally Intense OBE; Helping a Child
I woke as I sometimes do about 3 am and had difficulty falling back asleep. Figuring it was a good time to try for another OBE, I affirmed my intention to help others if I could as I always like to do.
Just as I was falling back to sleep, in that in-between state of asleep and awake, I thought I heard someone calling ‘mom’ or ‘ma’..…a little voice crying out, and when I heard it again, I said “I’m here!â€
"The more we learn the more limitless the Universe becomes!"
Re: Travels of a Dreamwalker - Karen659
March 1, 2012
My first recollection for this experience was the fact that there were two people holding my hands, one on each side of the bed I was lying in, trying to get my attention. This brought me to full ‘awareness’ in realizing that I was likely transitioning into the astral vibration.
I saw a man and a woman, both appeared Hispanic, with the woman on my left, and the male on my right. I asked, ‘who’s there?’ to the woman told me her name (Gabrique? Gabrie…?) We started to talk, and the conversation was polite and friendly at first, and I recall asking them where they met (as I could tell they were together as a couple), and they told me all about how they met in a pizza shop, with him as the pizza maker.
During the conversation at one point (which I totally forgot any further details), the woman leaned down to whisper in my left ear something about being fearful and/or anxious with the male. I because aware of an uneasy tension that developed in the room and the atmosphere changed dramatically.
Now the male seemed to become angry, and bent down to talk in my right ear, telling me ‘negative’ things about her. I was taken aback at the change of energy into angry emotions and I knew I had to diffuse the situation quickly.
I don’t remember exactly what I said, but I do remember that initially I felt I did NOT do the right thing and realized the futility of it. I found myself yelling back at them, getting caught up in their emotional energy and sending my OWN emotions back at them (this is hard to describe as I felt I was actually showing/doing/feeling these emotions more than speaking them).
I realized this was not working, and so knew I had to ‘send love’ and tell them how much they WERE loved, that they are loving beings and a good person despite what they had been through in life. I felt they needed to know that they were loved…so I said, “I love youâ€
My first recollection for this experience was the fact that there were two people holding my hands, one on each side of the bed I was lying in, trying to get my attention. This brought me to full ‘awareness’ in realizing that I was likely transitioning into the astral vibration.
I saw a man and a woman, both appeared Hispanic, with the woman on my left, and the male on my right. I asked, ‘who’s there?’ to the woman told me her name (Gabrique? Gabrie…?) We started to talk, and the conversation was polite and friendly at first, and I recall asking them where they met (as I could tell they were together as a couple), and they told me all about how they met in a pizza shop, with him as the pizza maker.
During the conversation at one point (which I totally forgot any further details), the woman leaned down to whisper in my left ear something about being fearful and/or anxious with the male. I because aware of an uneasy tension that developed in the room and the atmosphere changed dramatically.
Now the male seemed to become angry, and bent down to talk in my right ear, telling me ‘negative’ things about her. I was taken aback at the change of energy into angry emotions and I knew I had to diffuse the situation quickly.
I don’t remember exactly what I said, but I do remember that initially I felt I did NOT do the right thing and realized the futility of it. I found myself yelling back at them, getting caught up in their emotional energy and sending my OWN emotions back at them (this is hard to describe as I felt I was actually showing/doing/feeling these emotions more than speaking them).
I realized this was not working, and so knew I had to ‘send love’ and tell them how much they WERE loved, that they are loving beings and a good person despite what they had been through in life. I felt they needed to know that they were loved…so I said, “I love youâ€
"The more we learn the more limitless the Universe becomes!"
Re: Travels of a Dreamwalker - Karen659
2012_03_18 171) Party Time! Meeting Many; Being a Writer
I had a series of dream like memories prior to getting out of body which I will mention here just in case someone has some clue if it fits. I was riding in a child’s wagon that was being pulled by a small motorcycle, but really appeared to be a glorified child’s motorized bike.
A family member (whom I have had to do a lot of forgiveness to in my life to overcome some major blockages) was driving the cycle, however, I was concerned for two reasons. We were driving down a major highway near me, and his abilities to function were declining (I felt he was slurring his words and such).
So I took over the controls and was still a bit apprehensive about driving this very small motorbike down a major highway! I am wondering if this can even make it, not knowing where I am driving to nor how to get there!
At one point when I was stopped to eat something, I talked to a man who appeared and told him of my concern that this small bike was not going to make it to the destination on such a major highway. He told me to not worry, that it had ‘a lot of power’ to it and would do just fine!
Now, my next thoughts were that I was ready to roll out of body! It was an easy exit, but upon standing by the bed, I felt a bit disoriented and need to put myself right side up! Vision was dim, and I was able to improve it by affirming ‘vision now!’ (I see I change the wording of these affirmations without really knowing why!)
As I left my bedroom and turned the corner, I was startled when a group of three women and a few young people started talking to me, saying ‘hey, look who’s here!’ with such exuberance and joy that I had to take a moment to compose myself, wondering just who are these people and what are they doing in my house!?!? Lol
I was immediately caught up in their happiness in seeing me, and knowing I was out of body, wanted to get their names so I could remember them upon waking! Each gave me their names, and I tried desperately to ‘imprint’ it, but the only name I remember is ‘Charlotte Daly’ (Daily?) The rest of the names were lost with the huge amount of information that was being taken in as they told me all about themselves.
In the background I could see another woman, a quiet one as I felt she didn’t speak English well. She had shorter, curly, light colored hair and I was told, ‘She’s with (my daughter-in-law’s name). (I will have to speak with my son’s wife to see if she knows of her)
Looking around, I realized I was within a huge room, full of young people of all types and it felt to be as if a party was going on! Everyone so happy and talkative and I was gathering so much information to remember, I just couldn’t imprint it all!
At one point, I remember a group of young people asking, ‘What is the name of this place?’ and can remember thinking to myself the word ‘Afterlife’. A few of them told me what name they felt it to be but my answer to them was something to the effect that ‘Why does it have to have a name for it?’ explaining that there are SO many names for this place, yet it really didn’t matter what you called it. What was important was that everyone was having such a grand time there!
Another woman at the party wore a dressing on her neck, and it reminded me of a dressing we’d use for a tracheostomy. I thought perhaps she had had one prior to passing for a long time and that’s why it was still necessary as part of her look.
In another part of the room, I was now sitting on the couch having a ton of fun and laughs, and all at once a young boy falls into my lap, not moving!! It’s like he ‘flops down dead’, as if trying to ‘freak me out’ and it doesn’t work as I just laugh with the rest of them saying, “Ooops, looks like we have another dead one!â€
I had a series of dream like memories prior to getting out of body which I will mention here just in case someone has some clue if it fits. I was riding in a child’s wagon that was being pulled by a small motorcycle, but really appeared to be a glorified child’s motorized bike.
A family member (whom I have had to do a lot of forgiveness to in my life to overcome some major blockages) was driving the cycle, however, I was concerned for two reasons. We were driving down a major highway near me, and his abilities to function were declining (I felt he was slurring his words and such).
So I took over the controls and was still a bit apprehensive about driving this very small motorbike down a major highway! I am wondering if this can even make it, not knowing where I am driving to nor how to get there!
At one point when I was stopped to eat something, I talked to a man who appeared and told him of my concern that this small bike was not going to make it to the destination on such a major highway. He told me to not worry, that it had ‘a lot of power’ to it and would do just fine!
Now, my next thoughts were that I was ready to roll out of body! It was an easy exit, but upon standing by the bed, I felt a bit disoriented and need to put myself right side up! Vision was dim, and I was able to improve it by affirming ‘vision now!’ (I see I change the wording of these affirmations without really knowing why!)
As I left my bedroom and turned the corner, I was startled when a group of three women and a few young people started talking to me, saying ‘hey, look who’s here!’ with such exuberance and joy that I had to take a moment to compose myself, wondering just who are these people and what are they doing in my house!?!? Lol
I was immediately caught up in their happiness in seeing me, and knowing I was out of body, wanted to get their names so I could remember them upon waking! Each gave me their names, and I tried desperately to ‘imprint’ it, but the only name I remember is ‘Charlotte Daly’ (Daily?) The rest of the names were lost with the huge amount of information that was being taken in as they told me all about themselves.
In the background I could see another woman, a quiet one as I felt she didn’t speak English well. She had shorter, curly, light colored hair and I was told, ‘She’s with (my daughter-in-law’s name). (I will have to speak with my son’s wife to see if she knows of her)
Looking around, I realized I was within a huge room, full of young people of all types and it felt to be as if a party was going on! Everyone so happy and talkative and I was gathering so much information to remember, I just couldn’t imprint it all!
At one point, I remember a group of young people asking, ‘What is the name of this place?’ and can remember thinking to myself the word ‘Afterlife’. A few of them told me what name they felt it to be but my answer to them was something to the effect that ‘Why does it have to have a name for it?’ explaining that there are SO many names for this place, yet it really didn’t matter what you called it. What was important was that everyone was having such a grand time there!
Another woman at the party wore a dressing on her neck, and it reminded me of a dressing we’d use for a tracheostomy. I thought perhaps she had had one prior to passing for a long time and that’s why it was still necessary as part of her look.
In another part of the room, I was now sitting on the couch having a ton of fun and laughs, and all at once a young boy falls into my lap, not moving!! It’s like he ‘flops down dead’, as if trying to ‘freak me out’ and it doesn’t work as I just laugh with the rest of them saying, “Ooops, looks like we have another dead one!â€
"The more we learn the more limitless the Universe becomes!"
Re: Travels of a Dreamwalker - Karen659
I've been delinquent in keeping up with my experiences here, so I'll be posting two today! Thanks for reading! -Karen
2012_04_01 172) Sending Love; Flexing Door; Flying Again
My first recollection of ‘awareness’ started with a surprised sensation of a hand firmly gripped on my right shoulder as I lay in bed. Bringing myself to full awareness, I realized someone or something was firmly attached to my back and holding onto my shoulder.
I remembered I had had this feeling once before, as it was accompanied as before with a sense of ‘concern’ and slight negativity. Knowing not to show fear, I attempted to twist to see who or what it was, and then finally having to swing it around so it was now in front of me.
What I saw was a man, a more ‘solid’ or heavier outline of a man standing off to my right. I did not get ‘good’ feelings from him, and I know I spoke with him, but the overwhelming feeling was that I needed to ‘send love’ to ‘let go’ of him.
I affirmed without fear, “I send you love!â€
2012_04_01 172) Sending Love; Flexing Door; Flying Again
My first recollection of ‘awareness’ started with a surprised sensation of a hand firmly gripped on my right shoulder as I lay in bed. Bringing myself to full awareness, I realized someone or something was firmly attached to my back and holding onto my shoulder.
I remembered I had had this feeling once before, as it was accompanied as before with a sense of ‘concern’ and slight negativity. Knowing not to show fear, I attempted to twist to see who or what it was, and then finally having to swing it around so it was now in front of me.
What I saw was a man, a more ‘solid’ or heavier outline of a man standing off to my right. I did not get ‘good’ feelings from him, and I know I spoke with him, but the overwhelming feeling was that I needed to ‘send love’ to ‘let go’ of him.
I affirmed without fear, “I send you love!â€
"The more we learn the more limitless the Universe becomes!"
Re: Travels of a Dreamwalker - Karen659
Second post for today..catching up...
2012_04_15 173) Sending Myself Healing Energy
This is the first OBE that I have had since I became very ill two weeks ago and was hospitalized. I’m home now and recovering slowly, and am thankful to be able to still get out of body despite the less-than-optimal state of health.
I became aware when I found myself visiting another house where I felt I was ‘staying’ as a visitor. I can recall knowing I was out of body, but wondered why I felt so sluggish and slow. To prove to myself I was out of body, I managed to do some slow flips and little jumps that confirmed my state of being.
The next recall was lifting higher and higher, looking down on my own house. As I came down into my house, I moved from room to room, viewing everything from ceiling level. Passing from the dining room to the kitchen, I intentionally made myself pass through the wall, and thoroughly enjoyed the feel of the ‘crackling’ sensation as I did. This only continued to confirm to me that I was out and in control.
Heading back to the living room, I passed by a large mirror that is there in real life. I see my reflection and continue on past. Seeing myself, it makes me remember that I had wanted to send healing energy to my body should I find myself out again and so moved toward the bedroom.
In the next moment, I stopped to think, ‘hey, if I can see myself in the mirror, maybe I can just send energy to my body via my reflection!â€
2012_04_15 173) Sending Myself Healing Energy
This is the first OBE that I have had since I became very ill two weeks ago and was hospitalized. I’m home now and recovering slowly, and am thankful to be able to still get out of body despite the less-than-optimal state of health.
I became aware when I found myself visiting another house where I felt I was ‘staying’ as a visitor. I can recall knowing I was out of body, but wondered why I felt so sluggish and slow. To prove to myself I was out of body, I managed to do some slow flips and little jumps that confirmed my state of being.
The next recall was lifting higher and higher, looking down on my own house. As I came down into my house, I moved from room to room, viewing everything from ceiling level. Passing from the dining room to the kitchen, I intentionally made myself pass through the wall, and thoroughly enjoyed the feel of the ‘crackling’ sensation as I did. This only continued to confirm to me that I was out and in control.
Heading back to the living room, I passed by a large mirror that is there in real life. I see my reflection and continue on past. Seeing myself, it makes me remember that I had wanted to send healing energy to my body should I find myself out again and so moved toward the bedroom.
In the next moment, I stopped to think, ‘hey, if I can see myself in the mirror, maybe I can just send energy to my body via my reflection!â€
"The more we learn the more limitless the Universe becomes!"
Re: Travels of a Dreamwalker - Karen659
April 23, 2012 174) OBE During my Hospitalization
During the course of my prolonged hospital stay, I had had a series of lucid dreams and even one OBE that I can recall. Unfortunately, being in the hospital environment, being woken quickly and without recorder or even paper available at all times, the amount of recall is quite limited. In addition, due to the need for some very strong mind-altering pain medicines, not all dreams were coherent and able to be described.
The lucid dreams I had during this stay were ones where I knew I was dreaming, yet did not feel in control (likely due to the medicine). I remember one being in a ship, watching the waves roll, thrilled with how big they were getting. I was never fearful, even at one point where I felt the wave pick up the entire ship and fly it through the air as it was tossed over a long distance. I knew I was safe and the landing would be easy.
However, the one OBE I did have had some interesting points despite it being a bit more like a lucid dream where I played along with the action that happened, but in the fully aware state of being out of body.
My first recollection was that of rolling out, but finding myself standing next to my sleeping body in a bedroom I was not familiar with. Moving in the room, I wasn’t completely convinced I was truly out of body as the environment was different and there were all these other people in the room trying to convince me that I was NOT out of body!
Looking around, I noticed a digital clock on the shelf nearby. I was thrilled to see that the display was unreadable, a validation for me that I was out of body as I have used this signal before. However, still not completely convinced as those around me were persistent, I made myself look away and back again, and when it remained unreadable, I felt firmly validated now that I was indeed out of body.
There was a big glass door leading to a balcony from this room and wanting to get outside, I passed easily through the doors. On the balcony, I looked down and saw I was about 10 stories high, looking onto a city street below. Knowing I was out of body, I thought about just jumping off the edge and flying down, but again, those people in the room are doing their best to convince me that I’m NOT out of body!
Now I have some doubts again and hesitate jumping. The people show me the broken screen on the door, saying “look, you broke that screen as you passed through the door, so you are not out of body!â€
During the course of my prolonged hospital stay, I had had a series of lucid dreams and even one OBE that I can recall. Unfortunately, being in the hospital environment, being woken quickly and without recorder or even paper available at all times, the amount of recall is quite limited. In addition, due to the need for some very strong mind-altering pain medicines, not all dreams were coherent and able to be described.
The lucid dreams I had during this stay were ones where I knew I was dreaming, yet did not feel in control (likely due to the medicine). I remember one being in a ship, watching the waves roll, thrilled with how big they were getting. I was never fearful, even at one point where I felt the wave pick up the entire ship and fly it through the air as it was tossed over a long distance. I knew I was safe and the landing would be easy.
However, the one OBE I did have had some interesting points despite it being a bit more like a lucid dream where I played along with the action that happened, but in the fully aware state of being out of body.
My first recollection was that of rolling out, but finding myself standing next to my sleeping body in a bedroom I was not familiar with. Moving in the room, I wasn’t completely convinced I was truly out of body as the environment was different and there were all these other people in the room trying to convince me that I was NOT out of body!
Looking around, I noticed a digital clock on the shelf nearby. I was thrilled to see that the display was unreadable, a validation for me that I was out of body as I have used this signal before. However, still not completely convinced as those around me were persistent, I made myself look away and back again, and when it remained unreadable, I felt firmly validated now that I was indeed out of body.
There was a big glass door leading to a balcony from this room and wanting to get outside, I passed easily through the doors. On the balcony, I looked down and saw I was about 10 stories high, looking onto a city street below. Knowing I was out of body, I thought about just jumping off the edge and flying down, but again, those people in the room are doing their best to convince me that I’m NOT out of body!
Now I have some doubts again and hesitate jumping. The people show me the broken screen on the door, saying “look, you broke that screen as you passed through the door, so you are not out of body!â€
"The more we learn the more limitless the Universe becomes!"
Re: Travels of a Dreamwalker - Karen659
Oh dear! I see I've been negligent in posting all my experiences here! Be sure to check my blog for the two I missed (#175, #176). If you can't get it there for any reason, let me know and I'll repost here. Meanwhile, I'll post the latest...thanks for reading! Now also can get to the blog with www.karen659.com
June 15, 2012 177) Lucid Learning; Mirrors Reflect Creative Abilities
It’s been a few weeks since I’ve shared an OBE (with the one last week lost entirely due to an early morning phone call), but I do want to share an experience I had early this AM that was more of a lucid learning experience. I do not remember being out of body, however, I do remember clearly I was with a guide and conscious of new information about to be given for a question I had regarding what is ‘true reality’ and how it relates to the One Moment.
I was being shown a snapshot (picture) of a scene that I remembered from childhood where I held a very large mirror up again my body and the camera caught the exact time my reflection and I appeared side by side in the same photo. It appeared as though there were two perfect images of me, without seeing there was a mirror involved.
I then knew this image was being shown as a way of explaining how our personal perceptions create what we see. There was so much abstract information being processed in this short explanation, that I understood it entirely at the time, however, now in trying to make sense now of what I saw, it is difficult to do with words. But I will do the best I can to share what I learned.
I was shown a ‘glass house’ full of people, and noticed that each of them carried a mirror. Some mirrors were very small; others had full body length mirrors with them. It may not even have been a real house but somewhere they could look outside into OTHER people and activities (with each of them carrying their own mirrors). I saw that by positioning and shining their mirrors to exactly where they wanted to ‘bring something into’ their lives inside this glass house, they just had to point and shoot their mirror’s reflection to that ‘moment’ they desired which was going on outside.
At the moment of pointing this reflection to the activity or person outside the house, immediately I could see that not only was the reflection seen in the personal mirror they carried, but also, there was movement of the ‘essence’ of it or some other part of it brought into the ‘glass house’ where they were. I could clearly see this ‘reflection process’ happening with the interaction of these reflections and at the time it all made perfect sense.
I felt all we had to do was point the mirror (and I felt it was up to us how big a mirror we had with us, as it was different sizes at different times) to whatever we wanted to ‘focus’ on outside of this glass house in these other lives and activities going on elsewhere that we also wanted to bring into our own house.
Now for the interesting part, I was then able to understand how a snapshot (picture) taken of this ‘reflection process’ is incapable of accurately portraying what is really happening. Someone else taking this picture with their ‘camera’ captures only the single moment that shows the reflection in the mirror of this person, however, cannot accurately show how this same reflection is ‘coming into’ this person’s ‘life’ or house.
In my conscious analyzing once awake trying to make sense of this, I believe it shows we always have the capabilities to have whatever we wish within this life (house). The ‘glass house’, IMO, is a symbol of our perceived ‘separateness’, where we BELIEVE we have a ‘wall’ between us and the ‘other creative realms’ and/or experiences in other lives we have lived, but where in actuality, all of it is very accessible to us if only we took the time to make our ‘mirror’ (open mind or ability to ‘reflect’; aka connect) bigger, and focus on what exactly we want ‘out there’, knowing we ARE able to bring into THIS life anything we wish.
When someone else is trying to explain or ‘capture’ the process that is happening for other individuals from an ‘external’ point of view, it is impossible for them to completely understand or even explain with a short ‘snapshot of a moment’ (camera picture) what is truly happening to us at that moment. Hence the best way to understand and ‘see’ what is going on is to make your ‘mirror’ bigger and experience it for yourself.
Hence the picture I saw from my childhood in the beginning was a means of explaining this all to me, for which I completely understood and thanked the guide for showing me. Of course, upon waking, to try to explain what I saw and felt into words is nearly impossible, but I do hope this gives you some idea of what I learned deep inside.)
June 15, 2012 177) Lucid Learning; Mirrors Reflect Creative Abilities
It’s been a few weeks since I’ve shared an OBE (with the one last week lost entirely due to an early morning phone call), but I do want to share an experience I had early this AM that was more of a lucid learning experience. I do not remember being out of body, however, I do remember clearly I was with a guide and conscious of new information about to be given for a question I had regarding what is ‘true reality’ and how it relates to the One Moment.
I was being shown a snapshot (picture) of a scene that I remembered from childhood where I held a very large mirror up again my body and the camera caught the exact time my reflection and I appeared side by side in the same photo. It appeared as though there were two perfect images of me, without seeing there was a mirror involved.
I then knew this image was being shown as a way of explaining how our personal perceptions create what we see. There was so much abstract information being processed in this short explanation, that I understood it entirely at the time, however, now in trying to make sense now of what I saw, it is difficult to do with words. But I will do the best I can to share what I learned.
I was shown a ‘glass house’ full of people, and noticed that each of them carried a mirror. Some mirrors were very small; others had full body length mirrors with them. It may not even have been a real house but somewhere they could look outside into OTHER people and activities (with each of them carrying their own mirrors). I saw that by positioning and shining their mirrors to exactly where they wanted to ‘bring something into’ their lives inside this glass house, they just had to point and shoot their mirror’s reflection to that ‘moment’ they desired which was going on outside.
At the moment of pointing this reflection to the activity or person outside the house, immediately I could see that not only was the reflection seen in the personal mirror they carried, but also, there was movement of the ‘essence’ of it or some other part of it brought into the ‘glass house’ where they were. I could clearly see this ‘reflection process’ happening with the interaction of these reflections and at the time it all made perfect sense.
I felt all we had to do was point the mirror (and I felt it was up to us how big a mirror we had with us, as it was different sizes at different times) to whatever we wanted to ‘focus’ on outside of this glass house in these other lives and activities going on elsewhere that we also wanted to bring into our own house.
Now for the interesting part, I was then able to understand how a snapshot (picture) taken of this ‘reflection process’ is incapable of accurately portraying what is really happening. Someone else taking this picture with their ‘camera’ captures only the single moment that shows the reflection in the mirror of this person, however, cannot accurately show how this same reflection is ‘coming into’ this person’s ‘life’ or house.
In my conscious analyzing once awake trying to make sense of this, I believe it shows we always have the capabilities to have whatever we wish within this life (house). The ‘glass house’, IMO, is a symbol of our perceived ‘separateness’, where we BELIEVE we have a ‘wall’ between us and the ‘other creative realms’ and/or experiences in other lives we have lived, but where in actuality, all of it is very accessible to us if only we took the time to make our ‘mirror’ (open mind or ability to ‘reflect’; aka connect) bigger, and focus on what exactly we want ‘out there’, knowing we ARE able to bring into THIS life anything we wish.
When someone else is trying to explain or ‘capture’ the process that is happening for other individuals from an ‘external’ point of view, it is impossible for them to completely understand or even explain with a short ‘snapshot of a moment’ (camera picture) what is truly happening to us at that moment. Hence the best way to understand and ‘see’ what is going on is to make your ‘mirror’ bigger and experience it for yourself.
Hence the picture I saw from my childhood in the beginning was a means of explaining this all to me, for which I completely understood and thanked the guide for showing me. Of course, upon waking, to try to explain what I saw and felt into words is nearly impossible, but I do hope this gives you some idea of what I learned deep inside.)
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Re: Travels of a Dreamwalker - Karen659
What a mental insight. You seemed to have realised that, in the realm of the mind, information as it presents itself isn't always compatible with the logic that we are so used to in the waking state. But this is a good thing because it forces us to look at things in a way that we normally wouldn't employ. It can often provide us with perspectives that we never imagined.I then knew this image was being shown as a way of explaining how our personal perceptions create what we see. There was so much abstract information being processed in this short explanation, that I understood it entirely at the time, however, now in trying to make sense now of what I saw, it is difficult to do with words. But I will do the best I can to share what I learned.
Thanks for sharing!
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Re: Travels of a Dreamwalker - Karen659
You are so welcome, and thank YOU for the comments! It's just amazing to me still how some experiences don't 'feel' to be that significant upon waking, however, in remembering how vivid they were and the information that can be gleaned from it, pushes me to record it.Summerlander wrote:What a mental insight. You seemed to have realised that, in the realm of the mind, information as it presents itself isn't always compatible with the logic that we are so used to in the waking state. But this is a good thing because it forces us to look at things in a way that we normally wouldn't employ. It can often provide us with perspectives that we never imagined.I then knew this image was being shown as a way of explaining how our personal perceptions create what we see. There was so much abstract information being processed in this short explanation, that I understood it entirely at the time, however, now in trying to make sense now of what I saw, it is difficult to do with words. But I will do the best I can to share what I learned.
Thanks for sharing!
Also, this personal perspective is SO important in my view...as our 'mind filters' are so different for every individual based on our past and present experiences. As I've had a few comments regarding how 'different' this experience was from many of my others on my blog, I thought I'd share the addendum I've added: Comment from another forum and answer for this experience I thought I should share: "how do you know if you experience was an OBE or a LD?"
I am of the belief that there is such a fine line between OBE and LD, even vivid dreaming at times. It's just a personal viewpoint that I don't like to 'label' anything one way or another as it puts a descriptive 'limit' to what it truly may be.
For this experience, I am aware I am dreaming and that there is another 'guide' with me who I am asking a question of, despite not remembering getting out into the 'near physical' as common with many of my OBEs. I feel I could have been in a 'higher vibrational' area unaware of any 'body' sense or separateness as one feels when OOB, or perhaps "just" a lucid dream, but regardless, the learning I feel I received remains very strong even hours now after waking.
I know this is a major concern for many that their experiences be 'labeled' one way or another, and IMO, as long as you are learning, whatever mode you are using, it is all good! Therefore I'll not truly be able to say exactly what this was, perhaps a combination of any or all 'labels' we give these experiences...
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Re: Travels of a Dreamwalker - Karen659
Cool! There is something we can all agree with though. What we experience are intriguing altered states of consciousness. I'll be getting myself some "guides" too in the near future. I want to put my phase workshop idea into practice. Take care and may you have more interesting experiences to tell!
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Re: Travels of a Dreamwalker - Karen659
Thank you for your kind words...and do keep me posted as to how things go for you! I'm sorry I'm not on the forum too much, as the Facebook group of Astral Projectors keeps me busy enough! You are certainly welcome to join us...if you have a FB profile, add me "Karen SixFiveNine" and I'll add you to our group! Anyone is welcome...the more we share, the more we can learn!!Summerlander wrote: Cool! There is something we can all agree with though. What we experience are intriguing altered states of consciousness. I'll be getting myself some "guides" too in the near future. I want to put my phase workshop idea into practice. Take care and may you have more interesting experiences to tell!
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Re: Travels of a Dreamwalker - Karen659
2011_07_22 Another death transition; Making amends
This particular experience was not like my usual in that I was not fully aware of my out of body status until later on. What I am able to say is that this ‘death transition’ feeling I have felt a few times before, and am wondering if these are just simulations for me to experience, learning the ability to ‘let go’ when I realize fighting is futile, or could they really be past live experiences with passing over that I have already been through? (Here’s a link to another similar death transition experience on my blog: http://karen659.blogspot.com/2009/01/96 ... r-obe.html)
I was driving my car down a very familiar back road, one I have traveled many times. It was raining, and I became aware I was having feelings of ‘foreboding’ and danger, and wondered why it was happening. As I drove down a very steep part of the road, I could see further down at the bottom of the hill that water had flooded over the roadway.
Initially I thought I might want to pick up some speed to get through it, however, a car coming from the other direction started passing through the water. I was shocked to see the car start spinning around, pushed off the road by the high waters.
I immediately put my car in reverse and backed up this steep hill quickly. Thinking maybe I should stop and help this other driver, I glanced back through the front of my windshield to see that his car was nearly capsized, but thankfully I could see that he was able to safely exit through his window and climb onto dry ground. I knew he had had a very close call with his situation.
As I backed up this hill, near the top I remembered there was a crossroad and wondered which way would be best to drive for an alternative route. Pulling into a grassy area by the crossroad, I could see my choice was either to the right or left as I somehow knew I could not have gone back the way I came.
I could see water cascading across the crossroads, running from the right to the left. I figured I’d better drive to the right, where the water was coming from, instead of taking a chance that the water was pooling down the road to the left.
As I started to pull out, I had to stop quickly because a large multi-passenger SUV was pulling out from that direction. I was shocked to see it looked as though it had been in a terrible crash, with pieces missing, and obvious injury to the people inside. I worried that maybe I should stop to help them too, but then figured since they were able to drive the vehicle, I guess they would be ok.
I turned quickly into the road leading to the right, and again was shocked to see that it appeared to be a ‘dead end’ (no pun intended). Immediately I saw what looked like an accident scene, and too late realized there were electric wires down and across the road!!
I had driven directly into the path of the downed wires, as it was raining and everything from there on out happened at once. I KNEW I was about to be electrocuted, I could see the wires, hear the crackle and pop, and felt the tingly vibration of something happening. I knew I was going to pass over, and was not afraid at all, and my only concern was that it was to be painless. I was thrilled when I realized all I felt was this slight tingle or vibration.
Wondering what was going to happen next, I remember thinking I’ll have to do a reality check now, because I was curious what sort of reality I was moving into! Immediately, I was fully awake in my bed, feeling the soft gentle sensations of settling back into my body.
After recording this experience, I went back to sleep and now found myself driving a car again, a common theme for me so I more easily become ‘aware’ when this happens within a dream.
I got the signal that I might be able to move out of body and so tried to roll out of the car. I found it difficult to separate, and had a few seconds of thinking maybe I AM really driving and shouldn’t be throwing myself out of the car!! Lol
However, this indecision as to whether I’m really driving or not is also another signal I use to know I’m ready to exit, as when I’m driving for real in the physical I absolutely have no doubt I am driving. Therefore, ANY indecision as to whether it’s ‘real’ or not, means it’s not!
This time I three myself backward, and immediately found myself out and flying! I was thrilled! It’s been a long time since I had this freedom of flight, and thoroughly enjoyed my swooping and flips! Realizing I had to have a destination, I remember asking to ‘take me where I need to learn’, and suddenly I found myself just outside a large house.
I recognized it was the house of someone from ‘a long time ago’, yet not anyone I can recall in this physical life. I also knew it was a woman whom I had had a ‘falling out’ with, and we had been estranged as friends for a long time. I felt I was there to try to make amends.
Knocking at the door, I was surprised to have it answered by this woman’s mother. She was friendly and polite, and I was relieved to be asked to enter. At this time, all I wanted to do was to go to her back yard to a particular tree and get a ‘seed pod’ that grew there. I wanted this keepsake as a momento of our friendship from a long time ago.
As I walked through the house, I came face to face with the woman whom I was estranged from. She was hesitating and not sure of what to say. I told her that her mom let me in and that all I wanted was this ‘pod’ from the backyard tree.
I could sense she was nervous but yet resistant to this idea. I did not want to upset her more, and so told her that if she really didn’t want me to go to the backyard, that all she had to do was say, “I’d really rather you didn’tâ€
This particular experience was not like my usual in that I was not fully aware of my out of body status until later on. What I am able to say is that this ‘death transition’ feeling I have felt a few times before, and am wondering if these are just simulations for me to experience, learning the ability to ‘let go’ when I realize fighting is futile, or could they really be past live experiences with passing over that I have already been through? (Here’s a link to another similar death transition experience on my blog: http://karen659.blogspot.com/2009/01/96 ... r-obe.html)
I was driving my car down a very familiar back road, one I have traveled many times. It was raining, and I became aware I was having feelings of ‘foreboding’ and danger, and wondered why it was happening. As I drove down a very steep part of the road, I could see further down at the bottom of the hill that water had flooded over the roadway.
Initially I thought I might want to pick up some speed to get through it, however, a car coming from the other direction started passing through the water. I was shocked to see the car start spinning around, pushed off the road by the high waters.
I immediately put my car in reverse and backed up this steep hill quickly. Thinking maybe I should stop and help this other driver, I glanced back through the front of my windshield to see that his car was nearly capsized, but thankfully I could see that he was able to safely exit through his window and climb onto dry ground. I knew he had had a very close call with his situation.
As I backed up this hill, near the top I remembered there was a crossroad and wondered which way would be best to drive for an alternative route. Pulling into a grassy area by the crossroad, I could see my choice was either to the right or left as I somehow knew I could not have gone back the way I came.
I could see water cascading across the crossroads, running from the right to the left. I figured I’d better drive to the right, where the water was coming from, instead of taking a chance that the water was pooling down the road to the left.
As I started to pull out, I had to stop quickly because a large multi-passenger SUV was pulling out from that direction. I was shocked to see it looked as though it had been in a terrible crash, with pieces missing, and obvious injury to the people inside. I worried that maybe I should stop to help them too, but then figured since they were able to drive the vehicle, I guess they would be ok.
I turned quickly into the road leading to the right, and again was shocked to see that it appeared to be a ‘dead end’ (no pun intended). Immediately I saw what looked like an accident scene, and too late realized there were electric wires down and across the road!!
I had driven directly into the path of the downed wires, as it was raining and everything from there on out happened at once. I KNEW I was about to be electrocuted, I could see the wires, hear the crackle and pop, and felt the tingly vibration of something happening. I knew I was going to pass over, and was not afraid at all, and my only concern was that it was to be painless. I was thrilled when I realized all I felt was this slight tingle or vibration.
Wondering what was going to happen next, I remember thinking I’ll have to do a reality check now, because I was curious what sort of reality I was moving into! Immediately, I was fully awake in my bed, feeling the soft gentle sensations of settling back into my body.
After recording this experience, I went back to sleep and now found myself driving a car again, a common theme for me so I more easily become ‘aware’ when this happens within a dream.
I got the signal that I might be able to move out of body and so tried to roll out of the car. I found it difficult to separate, and had a few seconds of thinking maybe I AM really driving and shouldn’t be throwing myself out of the car!! Lol
However, this indecision as to whether I’m really driving or not is also another signal I use to know I’m ready to exit, as when I’m driving for real in the physical I absolutely have no doubt I am driving. Therefore, ANY indecision as to whether it’s ‘real’ or not, means it’s not!
This time I three myself backward, and immediately found myself out and flying! I was thrilled! It’s been a long time since I had this freedom of flight, and thoroughly enjoyed my swooping and flips! Realizing I had to have a destination, I remember asking to ‘take me where I need to learn’, and suddenly I found myself just outside a large house.
I recognized it was the house of someone from ‘a long time ago’, yet not anyone I can recall in this physical life. I also knew it was a woman whom I had had a ‘falling out’ with, and we had been estranged as friends for a long time. I felt I was there to try to make amends.
Knocking at the door, I was surprised to have it answered by this woman’s mother. She was friendly and polite, and I was relieved to be asked to enter. At this time, all I wanted to do was to go to her back yard to a particular tree and get a ‘seed pod’ that grew there. I wanted this keepsake as a momento of our friendship from a long time ago.
As I walked through the house, I came face to face with the woman whom I was estranged from. She was hesitating and not sure of what to say. I told her that her mom let me in and that all I wanted was this ‘pod’ from the backyard tree.
I could sense she was nervous but yet resistant to this idea. I did not want to upset her more, and so told her that if she really didn’t want me to go to the backyard, that all she had to do was say, “I’d really rather you didn’tâ€
"The more we learn the more limitless the Universe becomes!"
Re: Travels of a Dreamwalker - Karen659
181) Rough Exit; Fearful Voice; Buddy Visit; Fairies and Leprechauns
Although I have had a few experiences over the past few weeks which I have not written up, these last two were quite interesting so I thought I’d write them up to share and get some insights on.
7.29.12
This experience was unusual in that I felt it was a totally different exit than what I am used to. Almost always, once I realize I’m ready to separate, I just roll off to my left off the bed and move on. This time, once I was aware of being ready to separate, I felt heavy and unable to move.
Determined to get out, I literally pushed myself up to a sitting position with my arms, concerned for a brief moment that I was actually physically doing this because it felt so ‘real’. Once sitting, I had to tug and pull to extricate myself until I was standing at the bedside.
Still feeling the tremendous pull back to body, I affirmed ‘to the door!’ to get away and blindly (as it was complete darkness) moved through the door, feeling the change in texture as my clue that I had exited the bedroom.
Flying down the stairs, I felt so free, assuming my now usual position of floating backwards on my back (looking to where I’ve been) as I watched the rotating circular pattern of lights that encompassed me in the blackness. Knowing how much fun it was to fly, I did my usual flips and dips to just have fun.
Realizing I had had no plans as to where to go if out, I just called out into the blackness that surrounded me, “Is anyone there?â€
Although I have had a few experiences over the past few weeks which I have not written up, these last two were quite interesting so I thought I’d write them up to share and get some insights on.
7.29.12
This experience was unusual in that I felt it was a totally different exit than what I am used to. Almost always, once I realize I’m ready to separate, I just roll off to my left off the bed and move on. This time, once I was aware of being ready to separate, I felt heavy and unable to move.
Determined to get out, I literally pushed myself up to a sitting position with my arms, concerned for a brief moment that I was actually physically doing this because it felt so ‘real’. Once sitting, I had to tug and pull to extricate myself until I was standing at the bedside.
Still feeling the tremendous pull back to body, I affirmed ‘to the door!’ to get away and blindly (as it was complete darkness) moved through the door, feeling the change in texture as my clue that I had exited the bedroom.
Flying down the stairs, I felt so free, assuming my now usual position of floating backwards on my back (looking to where I’ve been) as I watched the rotating circular pattern of lights that encompassed me in the blackness. Knowing how much fun it was to fly, I did my usual flips and dips to just have fun.
Realizing I had had no plans as to where to go if out, I just called out into the blackness that surrounded me, “Is anyone there?â€
"The more we learn the more limitless the Universe becomes!"
Re: Travels of a Dreamwalker - Karen659
My apologies for the length of this post, but I didn't want to leave anything out!
Rhine Research Center - Examining the Nature of Out of Body Experiences - September 2012
I want to share in as much detail as I can the experience I had last week (Sept 19-21, 2012) working with the Rhine Research Center (http://www.rhine.org/) in North Carolina as a participant for scientific research into the nature of out of body experiences. This is a pilot study being done in preparation for further investigative work, and I was honored to be asked to be the first test subject to see if any improvements and/or results could be generated.
Getting chosen to do this was in itself quite a synchronistic event, as I feel I didn't ask for this assignment, but the Universe showed me in or uncertain terms that I was to do to it!
I had just decided to sign up for the OBE Intensive with William Buhlman at the Monroe Institute in Virginia for November (as I've not been there before) and it was the Monroe Institute who was contacted by the researchers asking for astral study subjects who might be interested. Through email, William Buhlman asked if I might be interested. I was not really sure I wanted to do this, but for gather more information, I did as directed and contacted the CEO of The Monroe Institute.
When I first called, the CEO was on vacation so I left a message to call me back. It took almost two weeks before I tried calling again, but in the meantime, I went ahead and made plans to visit my friend in Chapel Hill, NC for a visit in mid-September.
Can you imagine my surprise when I found out from the CEO of TMI that the planned research was scheduled to be done IN North Carolina, just a few miles from where I’d be visiting my girlfriend AND they wanted to do it mid-September!! It was as if the Universe lined up the plans so that I had the exact time and place to be available for their research!
Arriving at the Rhine Research Center, I met with John and Bryan and had an overview of expectations and a general tour of the facility. We discussed the various ways they were hoping to take measurements – the exact platform scale ‘bed’ used previously by Lewis Hollander in the 1990’s for his research (http://www.scientificexploration.org/jo ... lander.pdf), a random number generator they previously used for their ESP research, a BioEnergy room that had a photon collection device to count the amount of invisible UV light that can be emitted, and a final ‘target’ room that would contain a chosen target that I was to focus on ‘seeing’ when out of body.
I was able to pick the room I wanted the target placed in, and to keep it double blind, the researchers themselves would not know what the target was. Another facility member would place it after hours and the room sealed.
Control testing started, which involved calibrating the scale to document changes in weight during deep breathing, holding breath both inhalation and exhalation, as well as documenting the changes in pattern as I moved on the platform. We had decided that the first 30 minutes or so would be my induction phase with a guided meditation, and that I would normal roll to my left to sleep just after it so the movement of the body roll was needed to be document to signal a ‘start’ time.
It was agreed that I would attempt to get OOB to the target and try to return immediately to record my impressions, and then if possible get back OOB to try for another experience for weight change, as the back to back OBEs have been done in the past with me. I would call out after I was completely awake for the morning.
To maximize the simulation for my own OBEs that occur frequently in the early morning hours, we agreed that I would call Bryan (who is staying in the same hotel 3 doors down) on the room phone after I wake the first night, between 3-4am. I plan on sleeping for about only 4 hours, staying up until 11:30pm or so, to get the deep sleep over with, and then once awakened, call Bryan who would then accompany me across the street to the research facility and scale.
EXPERIMENT 1 SESSION 1
I woke about 3am, tossed for a bit but by 3:15a decided to get up and get ready to go across the street. Arrived with Bryan at 3:20am to lab, was underway with attempt by 3:35am. The platform was not as comfortable as I initially thought and staying in the one position on my left side was becoming awkward.
I was concerned throughout the time that my excessive movement might alter what the scale readings were, so was anxious not to move much, which didn’t allow me to drop into sleep easily. I remember feeling a bit cool with the fan blowing, wishing I had left my jacket on instead of hanging it by the door. I felt my discomfort might impact my ability to project.
It felt as if I was never falling asleep with time ticking, doing deep breathing, visualizations of the target, impressing the need to know what it is. I also remembered the random number generator to try to see if I could get it to flow out of the normal curve.
At some point I must have drifted off to sleep, as I recall some dialogue with a woman who wanted something I had and was ready to give to another person. This woman said something to the effect that she was ‘on her deathbed’ and I should feel obligated to give it to her, but somehow I knew this statement it was not true.
I woke a few more times, always uncomfortable and afraid to move, but eventually took the risk of moving, checked the time on my phone and saw it was already 6am. Figuring not much was going to happen with this first experiment, I rolled to my right side and attempted one more time to sleep.
Next memories were of watching a video that was made for our local hospital where I used to work (some sort of promotional video it felt) and it was focusing on a display of wooden signs with words on them, such as Simplicity and many others I could read. (I discussed with Bryan the possibility that this might have to do with the target, but not certain)
I thought this unusual to have a video of the gift shop, focusing so intently on these word signs, but then the camera panned to the lobby where it was decorated very warmly as if autumn (which I remember thinking it’s really not that season yet). I saw a fire in the fireplace, and off to my left a huge slab of meat roasting on a rotisserie. I didn’t think this strange at all, only the sense that it was not the right ‘season’ to be decorated in yet.
My next thoughts were of ‘waking’, wanting to find the light. I felt a lamp pole on my right, and proceeded to walk my hands up the thin pole to the level where I felt a shelf to be located. On this shelf was a smaller lamp, without a shade, only a small broken bare light bulb at the top. I knew this was not going to work and felt disheartened again.
I then heard names being called out, as if a roll call, and the feeling of a school came. I saw/felt three younger girls (ages 12-14) walking by and noted that the names all started with the same “Kâ€
Rhine Research Center - Examining the Nature of Out of Body Experiences - September 2012
I want to share in as much detail as I can the experience I had last week (Sept 19-21, 2012) working with the Rhine Research Center (http://www.rhine.org/) in North Carolina as a participant for scientific research into the nature of out of body experiences. This is a pilot study being done in preparation for further investigative work, and I was honored to be asked to be the first test subject to see if any improvements and/or results could be generated.
Getting chosen to do this was in itself quite a synchronistic event, as I feel I didn't ask for this assignment, but the Universe showed me in or uncertain terms that I was to do to it!
I had just decided to sign up for the OBE Intensive with William Buhlman at the Monroe Institute in Virginia for November (as I've not been there before) and it was the Monroe Institute who was contacted by the researchers asking for astral study subjects who might be interested. Through email, William Buhlman asked if I might be interested. I was not really sure I wanted to do this, but for gather more information, I did as directed and contacted the CEO of The Monroe Institute.
When I first called, the CEO was on vacation so I left a message to call me back. It took almost two weeks before I tried calling again, but in the meantime, I went ahead and made plans to visit my friend in Chapel Hill, NC for a visit in mid-September.
Can you imagine my surprise when I found out from the CEO of TMI that the planned research was scheduled to be done IN North Carolina, just a few miles from where I’d be visiting my girlfriend AND they wanted to do it mid-September!! It was as if the Universe lined up the plans so that I had the exact time and place to be available for their research!
Arriving at the Rhine Research Center, I met with John and Bryan and had an overview of expectations and a general tour of the facility. We discussed the various ways they were hoping to take measurements – the exact platform scale ‘bed’ used previously by Lewis Hollander in the 1990’s for his research (http://www.scientificexploration.org/jo ... lander.pdf), a random number generator they previously used for their ESP research, a BioEnergy room that had a photon collection device to count the amount of invisible UV light that can be emitted, and a final ‘target’ room that would contain a chosen target that I was to focus on ‘seeing’ when out of body.
I was able to pick the room I wanted the target placed in, and to keep it double blind, the researchers themselves would not know what the target was. Another facility member would place it after hours and the room sealed.
Control testing started, which involved calibrating the scale to document changes in weight during deep breathing, holding breath both inhalation and exhalation, as well as documenting the changes in pattern as I moved on the platform. We had decided that the first 30 minutes or so would be my induction phase with a guided meditation, and that I would normal roll to my left to sleep just after it so the movement of the body roll was needed to be document to signal a ‘start’ time.
It was agreed that I would attempt to get OOB to the target and try to return immediately to record my impressions, and then if possible get back OOB to try for another experience for weight change, as the back to back OBEs have been done in the past with me. I would call out after I was completely awake for the morning.
To maximize the simulation for my own OBEs that occur frequently in the early morning hours, we agreed that I would call Bryan (who is staying in the same hotel 3 doors down) on the room phone after I wake the first night, between 3-4am. I plan on sleeping for about only 4 hours, staying up until 11:30pm or so, to get the deep sleep over with, and then once awakened, call Bryan who would then accompany me across the street to the research facility and scale.
EXPERIMENT 1 SESSION 1
I woke about 3am, tossed for a bit but by 3:15a decided to get up and get ready to go across the street. Arrived with Bryan at 3:20am to lab, was underway with attempt by 3:35am. The platform was not as comfortable as I initially thought and staying in the one position on my left side was becoming awkward.
I was concerned throughout the time that my excessive movement might alter what the scale readings were, so was anxious not to move much, which didn’t allow me to drop into sleep easily. I remember feeling a bit cool with the fan blowing, wishing I had left my jacket on instead of hanging it by the door. I felt my discomfort might impact my ability to project.
It felt as if I was never falling asleep with time ticking, doing deep breathing, visualizations of the target, impressing the need to know what it is. I also remembered the random number generator to try to see if I could get it to flow out of the normal curve.
At some point I must have drifted off to sleep, as I recall some dialogue with a woman who wanted something I had and was ready to give to another person. This woman said something to the effect that she was ‘on her deathbed’ and I should feel obligated to give it to her, but somehow I knew this statement it was not true.
I woke a few more times, always uncomfortable and afraid to move, but eventually took the risk of moving, checked the time on my phone and saw it was already 6am. Figuring not much was going to happen with this first experiment, I rolled to my right side and attempted one more time to sleep.
Next memories were of watching a video that was made for our local hospital where I used to work (some sort of promotional video it felt) and it was focusing on a display of wooden signs with words on them, such as Simplicity and many others I could read. (I discussed with Bryan the possibility that this might have to do with the target, but not certain)
I thought this unusual to have a video of the gift shop, focusing so intently on these word signs, but then the camera panned to the lobby where it was decorated very warmly as if autumn (which I remember thinking it’s really not that season yet). I saw a fire in the fireplace, and off to my left a huge slab of meat roasting on a rotisserie. I didn’t think this strange at all, only the sense that it was not the right ‘season’ to be decorated in yet.
My next thoughts were of ‘waking’, wanting to find the light. I felt a lamp pole on my right, and proceeded to walk my hands up the thin pole to the level where I felt a shelf to be located. On this shelf was a smaller lamp, without a shade, only a small broken bare light bulb at the top. I knew this was not going to work and felt disheartened again.
I then heard names being called out, as if a roll call, and the feeling of a school came. I saw/felt three younger girls (ages 12-14) walking by and noted that the names all started with the same “Kâ€
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Re: Travels of a Dreamwalker - Karen659
Cool. This sounds interesting. I started with Monroe.I had just decided to sign up for the OBE Intensive with William Buhlman at the Monroe Institute in Virginia for November (as I've not been there before) and it was the Monroe Institute who was contacted by the researchers asking for astral study subjects who might be interested. Through email, William Buhlman asked if I might be interested. I was not really sure I wanted to do this, but for gather more information, I did as directed and contacted the CEO of The Monroe Institute.
I asked them, “what are you boys doing here?â€
THE PHASE = waking consciousness during sleep hybridisation at 40Hz of brainwave activity conducive to lucid dreaming and autoscopy.
Re: Travels of a Dreamwalker - Karen659
Summerlander...thank you for your post and insights. I respect any and all opinions and insight as to what the significance of this could be. I only wanted to express what significance I felt it to be as interpreted through the opinions of the researchers I worked with.
Yes, of course, the final analyzing of the data will help to correlate any potential significant, and I'm looking forward to when it'll be made public, which I'm told should be around the end of the year!
Thanks again for the post....I will let everyone know when it is made public!
Karen
Yes, of course, the final analyzing of the data will help to correlate any potential significant, and I'm looking forward to when it'll be made public, which I'm told should be around the end of the year!
Thanks again for the post....I will let everyone know when it is made public!
Karen
"The more we learn the more limitless the Universe becomes!"
Re: Travels of a Dreamwalker - Karen659
2012_10_29 184) Clarity of Awareness; “Physicalâ€
"The more we learn the more limitless the Universe becomes!"
Re: Travels of a Dreamwalker - Karen659
So, I see that my recent posts have not been shared here with the OBE4U site, and the last few actually didn't even post completely. I've added a few more on my blog that are not here, so if you'd like to see the FULL experience of any past ones, or the few that were not posted here, please visit my blog at http://www.karen659.com.
I'll start reposting as I can, knowing that they are few and far between, as I do not have my full focus on having these experiences right now. Here is the last one, #187) Return to OBEs; Family gathering; Meeting Buddy; Daughter's Dream from 1/13/13....
Ever since my awesome experiences with the OBE research in North Carolina in September 2012, and then a fantastic week at the Monroe Institute with William Buhlman in November 2012, I've had some not-so-great experiences in my personal and professional physical life that took me away from my focus on OBEs and astral travel.
I always knew that I still traveled nightly, but I was not having the dream recall or the ability to ‘intend’ these experiences when one’s consciousness is so busy with more mundane physical issues.
Things are settling once again in my physical life, and with the support of some GREAT friends in the Astral Projectors Facebook group, I’m beginning to get back what I once had.
Last night (well, actually, this morning) I was able to really focus and intend to get OOB, using my MP3’s from various recordings, including author Jurgen Ziewe (http://www.multidimensionalman.com).
I was brought to awareness with his meditative recording that offered binaural tones, which at one point the tones actually became a bit ‘irritating’ to my ears, but that was also the trigger to lucidity that I needed to get out! (http://www.multidimensionalman.com/Mult ... Beats.html)
l found myself rolling off the bed, affirming, “To the door!” I felt sluggish, almost like pulling taffy to get my ‘body’ to respond but with determined affirmations, I floated out the bedroom door and down the stairs.
Once in the living room, I stopped to try to get more lucidity with “Clarity now!” affirmations which worked, and then also remembered how Jaime would clap/rub hands to confirm and improve awareness. I saw my hands in front of me, tried to ‘clap’ and knew by the feel of the energy that I was totally and completely out!
I moved to the front door and passed through easily, now in the front yard and drifting upward. I flew next door to my parents’ house (my childhood home) and from above, saw a number of familiar people standing around below. (I knew who they were at the time, but now have no idea.)
I sensed they were there for some sort of ‘gathering’ for someone ‘going away’…and it had a military or funeral connection to it. No one was too upset, and I recall noticing one person’s hair color as a beautiful reddish auburn and confirming to myself that it was nice to see the color was unchanged from last time I saw them (?).
Looking down at them, I did not join them, but rather wanted to just enjoy my sense of freedom of being out of body again! I recall flying and stretching my energies, maneuvering through trees and feeling the ‘touch’ of nature and all its beauty.
After a short time of pure enjoyment, I had the thought that I should take advantage of being out of body for other reasons, instead of doing it just for my pure enjoyment. With that thought, I found myself back in bed!
However, there was ‘something different’ about the feel of being in bed, and I remember affirming that I did NOT want to return yet, and despite sensing I was awake but knew to keep trying. I could feel my legs kicking at the bed covers, tangled up in the sheets, and trying desperately to move myself out of the bed.
Immediately I found myself standing at the glass door to the outdoors in my bedroom and totally unsure of my status! (I really should have realized it was my usual signal that ANY time I am ‘unsure of my status’ that it IS true that I’m OOB!! Lol)
So to check what reality I’m in, I try to put my hand through the glass sliding door…and it goes through easily! Ecstatic that I’m still OOB, I slowly move through the glass, feeling the wonderful change of texture as I pass through and into the cooler ‘air’ outdoors.
I stopped to look back at the glass door, and see my daughter’s cat there looking out at me! However, instead of the beautiful Russian blue cat he is, I watch as he changes into this white/brown/black calico cat! I think to myself how cute it is that even the cat has his ‘dream colors’ he wants to be!
Moving on, the next memories are quite limited, as I know I did a lot more than what I can fully recall. All I remember at this point is sitting at the bottom of a long flight of stairs, watching some sort of activity in front of me.
My ‘sense’ of what I was watching was something to do with a type of National Geographic documentary (?) on hunting or similar, with these HUGE wild boars (pigs) that were the size of cows! People were there I was conversing with, but have no idea what the topic of conversation was.
While sitting there, though, I was immensely pleased to see that my black lab, Buddy (who died a few years ago), once again came to sit next to me to be hugged and kissed. I can still feel his happy tail wag and comforting body next to me.
At that point, I became aware that my daughter was coming down the stairs behind me. (My daughter is just now starting to realize that she also travels in dreams, although she is not fully ready to accept it as a process of learning).
I’m so happy to tell her about Buddy being there with me, and then go to tell her that she too is now dreaming and astrally traveling! However, at that point where I am to say something, I get an AWFUL taste in my mouth and have to turn away from her to spit whatever it is out, over the railing at the side of the steps I was on.
As I turn to go back to talk to her, (concerned that she was going to think I was rather disgusting for spitting…lol), she’s gone and I find myself immediate fully awake and back in bed.
I hurry to record all that I could remember, and while writing this, just talked with my daughter to see if she remembered any dreams from this morning. She mentioned that although there was no specific dream recall, she awoke with a sense of ‘longing and missing’ our longtime pet, Buddy!
To me, this was enough of a validation to know that she was there, and with time, may wish to learn more about this wonderful world we all live in, as well as the multitude of ‘worlds’ that we are all multi-dimensionally part of!!!
I'll start reposting as I can, knowing that they are few and far between, as I do not have my full focus on having these experiences right now. Here is the last one, #187) Return to OBEs; Family gathering; Meeting Buddy; Daughter's Dream from 1/13/13....
Ever since my awesome experiences with the OBE research in North Carolina in September 2012, and then a fantastic week at the Monroe Institute with William Buhlman in November 2012, I've had some not-so-great experiences in my personal and professional physical life that took me away from my focus on OBEs and astral travel.
I always knew that I still traveled nightly, but I was not having the dream recall or the ability to ‘intend’ these experiences when one’s consciousness is so busy with more mundane physical issues.
Things are settling once again in my physical life, and with the support of some GREAT friends in the Astral Projectors Facebook group, I’m beginning to get back what I once had.
Last night (well, actually, this morning) I was able to really focus and intend to get OOB, using my MP3’s from various recordings, including author Jurgen Ziewe (http://www.multidimensionalman.com).
I was brought to awareness with his meditative recording that offered binaural tones, which at one point the tones actually became a bit ‘irritating’ to my ears, but that was also the trigger to lucidity that I needed to get out! (http://www.multidimensionalman.com/Mult ... Beats.html)
l found myself rolling off the bed, affirming, “To the door!” I felt sluggish, almost like pulling taffy to get my ‘body’ to respond but with determined affirmations, I floated out the bedroom door and down the stairs.
Once in the living room, I stopped to try to get more lucidity with “Clarity now!” affirmations which worked, and then also remembered how Jaime would clap/rub hands to confirm and improve awareness. I saw my hands in front of me, tried to ‘clap’ and knew by the feel of the energy that I was totally and completely out!
I moved to the front door and passed through easily, now in the front yard and drifting upward. I flew next door to my parents’ house (my childhood home) and from above, saw a number of familiar people standing around below. (I knew who they were at the time, but now have no idea.)
I sensed they were there for some sort of ‘gathering’ for someone ‘going away’…and it had a military or funeral connection to it. No one was too upset, and I recall noticing one person’s hair color as a beautiful reddish auburn and confirming to myself that it was nice to see the color was unchanged from last time I saw them (?).
Looking down at them, I did not join them, but rather wanted to just enjoy my sense of freedom of being out of body again! I recall flying and stretching my energies, maneuvering through trees and feeling the ‘touch’ of nature and all its beauty.
After a short time of pure enjoyment, I had the thought that I should take advantage of being out of body for other reasons, instead of doing it just for my pure enjoyment. With that thought, I found myself back in bed!
However, there was ‘something different’ about the feel of being in bed, and I remember affirming that I did NOT want to return yet, and despite sensing I was awake but knew to keep trying. I could feel my legs kicking at the bed covers, tangled up in the sheets, and trying desperately to move myself out of the bed.
Immediately I found myself standing at the glass door to the outdoors in my bedroom and totally unsure of my status! (I really should have realized it was my usual signal that ANY time I am ‘unsure of my status’ that it IS true that I’m OOB!! Lol)
So to check what reality I’m in, I try to put my hand through the glass sliding door…and it goes through easily! Ecstatic that I’m still OOB, I slowly move through the glass, feeling the wonderful change of texture as I pass through and into the cooler ‘air’ outdoors.
I stopped to look back at the glass door, and see my daughter’s cat there looking out at me! However, instead of the beautiful Russian blue cat he is, I watch as he changes into this white/brown/black calico cat! I think to myself how cute it is that even the cat has his ‘dream colors’ he wants to be!
Moving on, the next memories are quite limited, as I know I did a lot more than what I can fully recall. All I remember at this point is sitting at the bottom of a long flight of stairs, watching some sort of activity in front of me.
My ‘sense’ of what I was watching was something to do with a type of National Geographic documentary (?) on hunting or similar, with these HUGE wild boars (pigs) that were the size of cows! People were there I was conversing with, but have no idea what the topic of conversation was.
While sitting there, though, I was immensely pleased to see that my black lab, Buddy (who died a few years ago), once again came to sit next to me to be hugged and kissed. I can still feel his happy tail wag and comforting body next to me.
At that point, I became aware that my daughter was coming down the stairs behind me. (My daughter is just now starting to realize that she also travels in dreams, although she is not fully ready to accept it as a process of learning).
I’m so happy to tell her about Buddy being there with me, and then go to tell her that she too is now dreaming and astrally traveling! However, at that point where I am to say something, I get an AWFUL taste in my mouth and have to turn away from her to spit whatever it is out, over the railing at the side of the steps I was on.
As I turn to go back to talk to her, (concerned that she was going to think I was rather disgusting for spitting…lol), she’s gone and I find myself immediate fully awake and back in bed.
I hurry to record all that I could remember, and while writing this, just talked with my daughter to see if she remembered any dreams from this morning. She mentioned that although there was no specific dream recall, she awoke with a sense of ‘longing and missing’ our longtime pet, Buddy!
To me, this was enough of a validation to know that she was there, and with time, may wish to learn more about this wonderful world we all live in, as well as the multitude of ‘worlds’ that we are all multi-dimensionally part of!!!
Re: Travels of a Dreamwalker - Karen659
(King, 02021213)
After reading a few of your posts, I understand you have a religious or theological interest. Are you interested in theology, after life?
Rasputin was born a peasant in the small village of Pokrovskoye, along the Tura River in the Tobolsk guberniya (now Tyumen Oblast) in the immense West Siberian Plain. The date of his birth remained in doubt for some time and was estimated sometime between 1863 and 1873. Recently, new documents have surfaced revealing Rasputin's birth date as 10 January 1869 O.S. (equivalent to 22 January 1869 N.S.), the feast day of Gregory of Nyssa.
Down loaded on 02221213 from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grigori_Rasputin
A family tree, some are dead and some are living, however, begins in this life in what we use to call Prussia. We were high up in the aristocracy at the time, and up until the end of WWII, when as you already know, the world changed again.
Nikola Tesla was born on 10 July (O.S. 28 June) 1856 to Serb parents in the village of Smiljan, Austrian Empire (modern-day Croatia). His father, Milutin Tesla, was a priest of the Serbian Orthodox Church.
Down loaded on 02221213 from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Tesla
There are many instances throughout recorded time, where religions have forced themselves upon us and murdering many of us in the name of Jesus. We gladly and joyfully left humankind to their own. Hence, the future, the 20th century for some, became for others, what it is. Each person experiencing his or her own brand of hell or heaven. Just ask the Pope. Is he in hell or heaven right now? Is he battling a devil in his own way? (King, 2013)
One Theory of Classical Conditioning, a Brief History of Prussia
The area known as Prussia was inhabited in early times by West Slavic tribes, ancestors of the modern Poles, in the West, and Baltic tribes, closely related to Lithuanians, in the East. Sometime after the seventh century, the area was invaded and settled by pagan German tribes, later known as Prussians. In 1226, Prussia was conquered by the Teutonic Knights, a military religious order, who converted the Prussians to Christianity. The Teutonic Knights were overthrown by the Prussians with help from Poland and Lithuania in 1454.
Down loaded on 02251213 from: http://www.kolpack.com/packnet/prussia.html
Ivan Petrovich Pavlov was born on September 14, 1849 at Ryazan, where his father, Peter Dmitrievich Pavlov, was a village priest. He was educated first at the church school in Ryazan and then at the theological seminary there.
Down loaded on 02251213 from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Pavlov
Your homeland was the birthplace of most of the western world’s psychology, i.e. the way we think, patterns of thinking and so on. Additionally, the methods of its analysis were used, also, in the development of social-political, and the social theological, beliefs and conditioning in Europe, where you live.
It is not necessary to study all of these people, in-depth, but it may-be important, to you, to know something about how your own ideas form, in your own mind, and how they are influenced from within yourself by others, and from without, by others. Many of life’s Social Theological Conditioning Methods, as well as others, were imprinted and imparted to us before we were born into this particular life.
The Separation of Church and State
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof ...." Down loaded on 02251213 from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation ... ted_States
Pussy Riot illustrated through art, how the church influences and projects power over the state. Art is an expression/interpretation, of life on earth, pornography is art and art is porn, a vivid emotional expression of joy, sexuality, love, struggle, competition, and relationship, casual fucking, and so on. The Church has no authority over its use or definition because, it is, (art) both one’s expression and interpretation, it is the human-condition. All of which, we have place on our selves. We are all expressions of our selves, projecting out ward. Art is, “copulating and capitulating in unsent with one’s own spirituality”.(King, 2013)
I smile at the sunrise where I live, and I never forget how the innocent, too often, pay and have paid, for their own human-emotional expression with their very lives. Respect the dead they have a lot to say about the living. That would include the living Pope and Church and State.
Be well.
After reading a few of your posts, I understand you have a religious or theological interest. Are you interested in theology, after life?
Rasputin was born a peasant in the small village of Pokrovskoye, along the Tura River in the Tobolsk guberniya (now Tyumen Oblast) in the immense West Siberian Plain. The date of his birth remained in doubt for some time and was estimated sometime between 1863 and 1873. Recently, new documents have surfaced revealing Rasputin's birth date as 10 January 1869 O.S. (equivalent to 22 January 1869 N.S.), the feast day of Gregory of Nyssa.
Down loaded on 02221213 from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grigori_Rasputin
A family tree, some are dead and some are living, however, begins in this life in what we use to call Prussia. We were high up in the aristocracy at the time, and up until the end of WWII, when as you already know, the world changed again.
Nikola Tesla was born on 10 July (O.S. 28 June) 1856 to Serb parents in the village of Smiljan, Austrian Empire (modern-day Croatia). His father, Milutin Tesla, was a priest of the Serbian Orthodox Church.
Down loaded on 02221213 from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Tesla
There are many instances throughout recorded time, where religions have forced themselves upon us and murdering many of us in the name of Jesus. We gladly and joyfully left humankind to their own. Hence, the future, the 20th century for some, became for others, what it is. Each person experiencing his or her own brand of hell or heaven. Just ask the Pope. Is he in hell or heaven right now? Is he battling a devil in his own way? (King, 2013)
One Theory of Classical Conditioning, a Brief History of Prussia
The area known as Prussia was inhabited in early times by West Slavic tribes, ancestors of the modern Poles, in the West, and Baltic tribes, closely related to Lithuanians, in the East. Sometime after the seventh century, the area was invaded and settled by pagan German tribes, later known as Prussians. In 1226, Prussia was conquered by the Teutonic Knights, a military religious order, who converted the Prussians to Christianity. The Teutonic Knights were overthrown by the Prussians with help from Poland and Lithuania in 1454.
Down loaded on 02251213 from: http://www.kolpack.com/packnet/prussia.html
Ivan Petrovich Pavlov was born on September 14, 1849 at Ryazan, where his father, Peter Dmitrievich Pavlov, was a village priest. He was educated first at the church school in Ryazan and then at the theological seminary there.
Down loaded on 02251213 from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Pavlov
Your homeland was the birthplace of most of the western world’s psychology, i.e. the way we think, patterns of thinking and so on. Additionally, the methods of its analysis were used, also, in the development of social-political, and the social theological, beliefs and conditioning in Europe, where you live.
It is not necessary to study all of these people, in-depth, but it may-be important, to you, to know something about how your own ideas form, in your own mind, and how they are influenced from within yourself by others, and from without, by others. Many of life’s Social Theological Conditioning Methods, as well as others, were imprinted and imparted to us before we were born into this particular life.
The Separation of Church and State
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof ...." Down loaded on 02251213 from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation ... ted_States
Pussy Riot illustrated through art, how the church influences and projects power over the state. Art is an expression/interpretation, of life on earth, pornography is art and art is porn, a vivid emotional expression of joy, sexuality, love, struggle, competition, and relationship, casual fucking, and so on. The Church has no authority over its use or definition because, it is, (art) both one’s expression and interpretation, it is the human-condition. All of which, we have place on our selves. We are all expressions of our selves, projecting out ward. Art is, “copulating and capitulating in unsent with one’s own spirituality”.(King, 2013)
I smile at the sunrise where I live, and I never forget how the innocent, too often, pay and have paid, for their own human-emotional expression with their very lives. Respect the dead they have a lot to say about the living. That would include the living Pope and Church and State.
Be well.
Re: Re: Travels of a Dreamwalker - Karen659
I've been out of touch for a while...realizing that my focus needs to be on this 'physical life' that I have chosen and gathering memories to take with me when I return to spirit. However, a few experiences recently I wish to share on my blog. Please check www.karen659.blogspot.com for the latest OOB travels. I have learned SO much about who we 'really are' that I wish to share what I know...don't hesitate to email with any questions or comments! -Karen